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We often get asked "wen ZK?"
Little known fact: OP Mainnet is ZK-provable today.
So... why haven’t we already thrown fault proofs away and turned into a ZK rollup?
I think this is the wrong framing for the question because it focuses on a specific technical architecture rather than the user value:
- Better theoretical security
- Secure low latency bridging
Our goal is to continuously improve the security, speed, reliability that our users receive on a per-cent basis. But ZK is not the only way to do so!
I'd love to switch to ZK one day. But the following must be true for it to be a net-beneficial switch for users:
1. Lindy/ de-risked cryptography
2. Sub-cent transactions
3. EVM equivalent
Til then, we continue to invest in greater security, lower latency, and even more scalable blockspace. Today, that's done with fault proofs. In the future, maybe a combination of fault proofs and zk proofs!
We are certainly investing in both!
(So much gratitude to our brilliant partners at risc0, sp1, and O1 Labs)
Little known fact: OP Mainnet is ZK-provable today.
So... why haven’t we already thrown fault proofs away and turned into a ZK rollup?
I think this is the wrong framing for the question because it focuses on a specific technical architecture rather than the user value:
- Better theoretical security
- Secure low latency bridging
Our goal is to continuously improve the security, speed, reliability that our users receive on a per-cent basis. But ZK is not the only way to do so!
I'd love to switch to ZK one day. But the following must be true for it to be a net-beneficial switch for users:
1. Lindy/ de-risked cryptography
2. Sub-cent transactions
3. EVM equivalent
Til then, we continue to invest in greater security, lower latency, and even more scalable blockspace. Today, that's done with fault proofs. In the future, maybe a combination of fault proofs and zk proofs!
We are certainly investing in both!
(So much gratitude to our brilliant partners at risc0, sp1, and O1 Labs)
gas-intensive shards are sharts
pre-pmf founder is a flounder 🤓
What’s the funnest thing you have ever done on chain?
Really amazing to see the explosion of fun consumer experiences on Base:
https://w1nt3r.mirror.xyz/Xkxt6MGL58gUI4AWMEglGVFtCGpCqOeStgl5HoX53ow
https://w1nt3r.mirror.xyz/Xkxt6MGL58gUI4AWMEglGVFtCGpCqOeStgl5HoX53ow
Y’all - the pipe dream of sustainable OSS funding is becoming reality.
Optimism is doing its third round of retroactive public goods funding. Nothing to lose in signing up since it’s for work you’ve already done!
https://app.optimism.io/retropgf-signup
Optimism is doing its third round of retroactive public goods funding. Nothing to lose in signing up since it’s for work you’ve already done!
https://app.optimism.io/retropgf-signup
Governace, law and business nerds. I have a nerdsnipe for you: https://gov.optimism.io/t/law-of-chains-v0-1-section-by-section-overview/6515
In web2 terms, this is a platform-level SLA but upheld by a DAO (rather than a corporation)
IMO, among the most creative DAO/gov innovations yet. Curious what y'all think!
In web2 terms, this is a platform-level SLA but upheld by a DAO (rather than a corporation)
IMO, among the most creative DAO/gov innovations yet. Curious what y'all think!
lmao i just adopted a hyphen cuz @jessepollak is making hyphens disappear https://zora.co/collect/eth:0x73d24948fd946ae7f20eed63d7c0680edfaf36f1
farcaster feels more private, less stressful, like you're talking to a closer group of friends. i wonder how this will change as it grows?
RetroPGF 3 announced today! 30m OP getting rewarded in the fall to teams who deliver impact. That includes stuff like open source libraries! Last round we rewarded all the dependences in Optimism Monorepo. https://optimism.mirror.xyz/oVnEz7LrfeOTC7H6xCXb5dMZ8Rc4dSkD2KfgG5W9cCw?test=1
oh mah gawd !!! hello world